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Dave P.

Is MS on the way to creating a Win 8 or Vista scenario, where most folk thought they were both rubbish or are they going to listen to early adopters’ messages?

Names

Fusion: Windows Vista + Windows 8
Windows 11 !!

MerryMarjie

Has it ever occurred to Microsoft that not everyone wants to “upgrade” and completely change the way they operate a computer every few years? I haven’t installed Windows 11 yet, and may not for some time as I’m finally getting rid of the Edge and One Drive defaults for everything. It seems every time I change a default area, Microsoft changes it all back again.

Jay

That stuff is superficial. I’m having real issues with Windows 11 like the Bluetooth dropping and “system” randomly keeping the CPU usage at 25%.

Ciprian Adrian Rusen

From our experience, Windows 11 seems like a rushed product with diverse bugs. It is a wise decision to wait for a couple of months until you make an upgrade.

Biggus Dickus

Valentin-Gabriel Radu should get the Nobel Prize (restores Windows 10 taskbar and Quick Launch to Windows 11):
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher

Estudiante

I hate Windows 11 because Microsoft.

Remember when Microsoft promised that there would be no new operating system after Windows 10? Now W 11 is being foisted on us.

Windows 11 is the last straw; I’m switching to Linux!

Also, try to change the password to your Microsoft account…it’s virtually impossible to do!

F*** Microsoft! F*** Windows!

ax

It literally took 30 clicks to set my default browser to Chrome that used to take 1.
I hate the centered task bar. That was the first thing I changed.
Then I got to the Start Menu. It is so bad it’s almost 100% useless. Just when Windows 10 Start Menu allowed me to neatly organize all my apps and remove every single shortcut from my desktop, Windows 11 is going to force me to put a shortcut to every app I have back on the desktop cluttering it all up again like it was with all the Windows before 10.
That is a huge deal for the way I setup all the users computers in the company I work.
Just trying to setup my new computer is a major pain due to the lack of customizing for pretty much everything.
I don’t care for the rounded corners. I’ve had it crash on me several times already. No blue screen, just black. The settings icon is in the Start menu just like any app that can move all over the place. That will be huge pain in the ass whenever I’m trying to talk someone through getting to a specific setting when doing tech support over the phone. What’s worse is it can be removed from the Start Menu altogether. It’s 100% guaranteed, some user will delete it and dig themselves into a deep hole and can’t find it and won’t know how to search for it. It’s really setup for you to search for pretty much anything you want to use. Want to open Word, type it in first, then click, Want open Chrome, type it in first, then click, what a colossal waste of time. I mean the
Start Menu only allows you to see 18 icons at one time, with little to no organizing to them at all. Heck the entire Settings windows is just effed up.
The more I talk about it, the more I want to dump Windows 11 and go back to 10 and wait for Windows 12.

Damian

agreed if i wanted an Apple i bought one. I liked live tiles, even click Microsoft news only because its a LIVE TILE, i’m sorry people didnt like Window Phone but they MFST don’t have to completely kill themselves because of it. was looking forward to implementing Live Tile nicely as an app developer i guess its depressingly suicided already. I had recently Bought a surface laptop Studio for big $$$ to debug android apps ..but find emulator with hardware Accel is totally broken out of the box, and everyone experiences it. unbelievable for a company with such resources.. im sure it will be fixed but um theres some big decision makers should shush in there, always the a*holes get their way.

Brian

Windows 11 SUCKS! My WIFI keeps dropping out and my blue tooth headphones drop frequently, had none of these problems with W10.

Mikko Mansikka

Reason I don’t like is all in the above.
More to mention, clock on taskbar shows ONLY in main display. When main display shows fullscreen applications, games as example, I cannot see clock even as I am using multiple monitors.

Start menu is too small and cannot increase size of it, like on the Windows 10.

There become some odd visual effect when reading web sites – suddenly during reading web sites the screen gets darker and when I move cursor it becomes back to normal. Some moment later it happens again. I guess it’s meaned to make reader easier but that is very annoy visual effect.

Tom Michels

Ditto to all the above. It took forever to install and it took me 5 minutes to return my computer to Windows 10. Microsoft designers are asleep at the wheel. They didn’t learn the last time that you can’t keep moving our cheese. I will not be changing to Windows 11. Basically Windows 11 sucks.

Jim

So bad I barely know what to say. Can Bill come out of retirement, fck the planet just fix Windows for us please!

Billster

Awful OS, performance robber and a way oversimplified GUI. My computer felt slower, lags when I would a program that never lagged in 10 … I just felt like my 11th GEN Intel i7 was performing more like a 6th GEN i3 under Win 11. The GUI? Not fun to use. Hate it. Start menu is useless, difficult to use effectively, frustrating, loss of control and customization, terrible looking GUI command graphics even down to the copy and paste commands are now simplified unlabeled generic icons and they’re not even good looking icons at that. Reinstalled Win 10 and my laptop is better looking and is fast again.
MS leadership slaps the user in the face as nitwits by controlling what they think we want to see as we pay for their product. It’s backward. I reverted back to 10 since I liked it much better than 11. If 11 isn’t replaced by a true upgrade to 10 by keeping its features while making it more appealing and customizable, then when 10’s service life ends, we need to seek an alternative OS again to force a business to concede to the wants of its paying customers.

Tom

All the reasons listed above correlated with my own experience but, in addition I noted a couple of other issues that just peed me off:

a) Performance was notably slower on my system which is a AMD Ryzen 7 laptop with 8 cores and 16GB of RAM
b) I change my screensaver settings multiple times a day (hey, it’s my person workflow quirk and I’m entitle to it) and in Windows 10 this was a quick and seamless process. In Windows 11 however it is slower to make the change but in addition when I do the whole taskbar disappears and refreshes (quite slowly) and a few times my computer has frozen for a period of time.
c) Not only does the taskbar lack customisability (as mentioned above) but apps which don’t fit on the taskbar simply fall off with no way to access them. Fortunately I have large external monitors and so could still see some of these but on my laptop screen which is smaller I lost access to key program. I tried setting the taskbar icons to their smallest size using registry settings but this didn’t help because although the icons did become smaller the space between them remained the same and so in effect I couldn’t squeeze any more program icons onto the taskbar.

Seriously, its the XP-Vista fiasco all over again. How could they get it so wrong. I really wanted to like it but is sucks.

Tom.

Ciprian Adrian Rusen

Thanks for sharing your experience. Did you receive the latest updates that fix some of the performance issues on AMD Ryzen processors?

J.

Excuse my typos, I can not use moible keyboards very well.

Michael

I 100% agree with everything in this article. I got here trying to figure out how to get the time to show on my second monitor.

There are so many additional reasons why W11 is garbage. For example, I use dark mode on everything, but some menus (even within the same program) still show up white for no reason.

Dan

One thing – always this one thing – microsoft – PLESE leave the options we had before …and stop forcing your (mostly stupid) new ideas…. after every new version we have LESS CONTROL, LESS OPTIONS, LESS PLEASANT UX – and fighting YOU to leave us in peace with older versions :/

Marc

1) TPM 2.0 and processor selection : obligation to spend a lot of money for new PC and a lot of electronic garbage by dumping your older PC .
2) Discrimination between Win Home users and Win Pro concernig the account choice (local or microsoft) !
I hate Microsoft for this !!!!

Jim G

I agree with all of the above and want to add my hatred for the “new and improved” Slim pen 2. There are no options for softer tips, and the hard plastic tip feels like writing on glass with a ball point pen. Ridiculous not to have a range of softer tips available to customize the feel of the pen. That is the main reason artist type pay so much for the Surface line, and they take away the Tablet mode and pen tip options. NICE IMPROVEMENTS! What happened to our right to choose? It’s my computer / freedom of choice and all the other buzz phrases they preach but don’t practice.

Jimbo Slim

I went back to 10 because they dropped the ability to run slideshow from file explorer. Yes I know Photos has o e but it’s a lot more difficult to set up and run it there. Why not just leave that feature there for those that want it? Clearly MS will never learn that taking away functionality is not a good representation of progress or evolution.

Kerim

I totally agree with 3 and 4. I’ve been using taskbar on top for years, maybe for a decade and now, it is stuck at the bottom. There are ways to take it back to the top but it needs registry-editing and even then, there’d be several bugs. I wonder why? Why cannot I move the taskbar to the top? How primitive is that for an OS???

And number 4, the start menu. It is a great disappointment. I liked the metro-style start menu of Windows 10. I’m a heavy PC user, so I use numerous programs and I used to order them in Windows 10 Metro, especially in folders. Win 11’s start menu’s quick access area LACKS FOLDER. AND I CANNOT EVEN RE-ORDER ICON ALPHABETICALLY. Everything is so random there that it feels… it give headache.

I’m sad.

Microsoft hater

They keep moving stuff around? Where I once thought I new what I was doing. I haven’t a darn clue? Which seems to be their goal? I’m almost positive. This is were they’re trying to get to. Intern makes the users spend more money. Take this thing somewhere or sale it. I don’t want widgets. You cant uninstall widgets from apps or programs? Even after disabling them in settings. They’re still running in processes? You have to go to the terminal to uninstall them? I never installed and would never. They were not useful. The last time. They were on Windows. I’m willing to bet. They’re not useful for me. Maybe someone else. However they can install them. I like my computer to be simple and you’ve made exactly opposite. 2 places to do updates. I cant even figure out how to uninstall app at times. I’m pretty sure I removed a couple of them. Only to find out they have reinstalled themselves? I started on Windows 95 and Windows 7. Id like to stay. Microsoft keeps making more complicated. I have nothing positive to say about this OS at all. Leave my start menu on left. Don’t install any apps “widgets” without asking me. Don’t make any exemptions in my firewall without asking me. Then explaining why this exemption is needed. I’m customer but what sucks is you know. There is no other OS to go to. So keep you just keep doing whatever you want. Let ole karma come back.

Microsoft hater

This isn’t what I wrote either. I went over this several times. I know for a fact. Your trying to make me look incompetent. “So keep you just keep doing whatever you want”. This sentence right here. I know for fact. I didn’t write it this way.

Microsoft hater

Incompetent or not I know one thing. I dang sure can’t go back to the 150 dollar installation disk I purchased. Without a very frustrating 3 or 4 OS updates. Which in my opinion just makes Windows PC’s annoying to use! I’m real excited about this! :/

Don Groover

The Windows 11 initial setup requires so much more knowledge of terms that should not matter. Back in the earlier days of Windows, ex: Windows 98 was considered by some as one of the most user-friendly versions ever. Now this Windows 11, which was not supposed to be installed on my new Laptop. But as soon as it was able to connect to my Wi-fi, it automatically upgraded to without my approval. Unless you are a Computer Nerd or studied to be a Computer Technician you probably will not know all of the terminology required to do the initial setup. With so many of the people 55 or older buying computers to keep up with their family. Then as people get older and do not learn as easily as when they were younger, they are screwed. Does Microsoft Care??? I suspect not! After Microsoft Buys out their competitors and absorbs their technology into Windows programs, they start to forget that their competitor’s product was usually “User Friendly”. I believe that it is time for a Microsoft Competitor. – – Don

Brian

Absolutely agree. Windows 11 is awful. Hard to believe a company like Microsoft would release such a substandard product.

typhon33

Number 5 is incorrect, you “can” setup Windows Home with a local account, at least for now. During setup press shift F10, this will bring up CMD window, type OOBE\BYPASSNRO. This will restart the setup process and when you get to section to connect to internet you will have the old option to say you don’t have internet access. This will allow for a local account setup.

Anyways…I’m encountering other reasons why Win11 sucks, to start, I can’t easily create icons on the desktop! The send to desktop option seems to be gone. Also agree with the missing taskbar options. Just seems a lot of menu options have been removed making customization more difficult.

Ciprian Adrian Rusen

Technically, you are correct about number 5 but our point is a different one. If you are a non-technical user, what we say is correct. Unless you read tutorials on the internet, to find the solution, Windows 11 Home will block you from using a local account using only the options shown on the screen.

Roger Hardman

I want to be able to get up a blank word sheet to create a new document more easily. I want then to be able to go to ‘Save as’ and save it directly into my filing system, oh! just like Windows 10. Well, I wonder why they thought making thins more difficult was better. I am trying to be sarcastic but I don’t think my literary skills will allow me to reach the level of sarcasm that I really intend.
I DON’T WANTMY STUFF TO BE SAVED TO ANY STUPID CLOUD SOMEWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO SECURITY?
And on top of all this, it seems that I have to take out a loan to buy a subscription for Office 365.
And a load of other stuff! Rant over.
Are they really trying to get rid of customers?

Michael Murphy

Your list covers everything I have come across so far. But, for me the reason it sucks is that Microsoft screws up the easy things because they don’t care about the wider user base: if you are not a developer, you are just a money trough. And on the developer pages, developers tell users that, “you should just get used to it”.

It’s only going to get worse, because the list of things to hate is not a list of bugs in Microsoft’s eyes…those are all features.

microforks

Because its sh** and M$ know it!

Sure you could throw it in winreducer and cut out the slack, but you could more easily do it with Windows 10. Rather than bother wasting your time with something essentially designed for, security paranoid locked down environments.

Jeff Jeff

They call Bill Gates smart. He was only smart in one aspect. He got out of Microsoft before the mess continues to get worse. They hired people in other counties that are not trained on how to write
quality software – no objection to these people but they don’t know how to write good requirements so they
can be properly translated to all the components of a good software system.

What Mr. Bill does not understand is that I have only one life and I don’t need to spend it on fighting poorly designed operating systems.

ted

Win11 is embarrassing. Open-shell, OO shut-up and WUT make it semi usable.

jay

Do you know what i think of windows 11…combine a knife with a crocodile to get your answer.Mark my words, i am NEVER EVER going to upgrade to windows 11. You cant customize a single fliping thing i dont care if its flipping slow but i flipping want windows 7 back – it looked incredible. But with windows 11 i might as well be operating the f***ing operating system with a cucumber and a card board box. windows 11 is the marrage of windows and macOS and they need to divorce pretty soon or they are going right down mount etna. The worst windows upgrade in a flipping billion years i’d rather go back to windows 1.01 you bet.

Guest

Windows 11 has other issues as well:
– it is still incompatible with 16-bit applications
– it lacks a proper NTVDM to run MS-DOS programs in energy/power efficient native and easy way (emulation costs power and in many cases requires users to understand the full system instead of just knowing how memory management works)
– some features needed for running some 32-bit programs are hard to enable, or have been removed from the operating system
– it does not have hardware accelerated audio and requires an additional tool for enabling it.

It is sad to say that by features and compatibility, Windows 98 SE is still the best version of Windows. By balancing between features and security, Windows XP is still the way to go. We do not need to pay to get a very safe operating system for connecting to the Internet. If we couple an older Windows operating system with a side-be-side installed free Linux/Unix distro, we can have both: great application compatibility and very secure online use.

tazmo

Agree with you Ciprian

Dex Welch

Totally agree. Hate w11. Came installed on new acer that I bought. Uuuugh!!

olddavey

As normal people say, “If it ain’t f**ed, don’t fix it.”

As Microsoft says, “It’s not f**ed ’til we’ve fixed it!!”

Just bought a new all-in-one to replace the old desktop and W11 was the only choice.
Absolute nightmare!
Also subscribed to 365, which is also a load of s**te. Cancelled after 3 days and installed Office 2007 Pro, which although is getting on a bit is still completely satisfactory.

Tommy Tech

Reducing productivity. It’s my time, and Win 11 is making me less productive. Changing things that worked well, eliminating features that were useful and well-liked. Having to find out how to do something that was easy before, now requiring a search, discovery, and using more clicks just to continue my work. Yes, MY WORK. For chrissake, it’s an operating system. Why should we go through these changes every few years? What was the last real functionality introduced by a G.D. operating system? And, it looks old — already dated. Where is the productivity improvement to my programs (yes, I still use programs) and apps? It’s all about money — keep the revenue stream going by forcing a change in operating systems on the customer. Linux is looking better and better all the time.

Rob

Pretty much nailed it. Windows 11 is slow. My office computer is old so that my be a factor nonetheless I hate windows 11. It always hangs for a few seconds runs sluggishly. Also I have been unable to get the search in the start bar to operate. It always suspends.

Pete

Oh dear, so many things wrong in Windows 11, the cut, copy, paste menu options with no labels and the show more options to run the shortcut that I use everyday.

The worst was signing in on my very first day with a new PC with Windows 11 and new LAN, I couldnt connect to my LAN – hadnt got past the setup step. But it wouldnt let me continue past setup without sending something to the Internet! But there was no Internet setup and no bypass. Luckily I was able to use my old W10 PC to add a new LAN, and then use the new machine to select that new LAN. Without the old machine I would have been stuffed.

My second favourite gripe was my computer shop was installing a larger M2 disk as a replica of my existing M2 disk. I gave them my PIN, but TPMS wanted them to change my hotmail password as the setup machine they were using to copy the 2 M2 disks was not the same as the original machine the M2 drive had been on. I needed to come back in the shop and sign into their build machine in order to authorise the disk copy.

Pete

Oh and which pillock QA’ed the change that All Apps start menu items must be grouped by a letter at the beginning – anything beginning with A under a title called A, etc I know my alphabet, I can read the first character.

gridsleep

The purpose of SecureBoot and TPM and Windows 11 is to make sure you are never allowed to use anything except Windows. Microsoft conspired with all PC makers to become the gatekeeper into hardware, exacting a $99 fee from any OS maker who wants their OS to run in a PC without being blocked by SecureBoot. That is its only purpose. If you can definitively prove any other purpose for SecureBoot, you probably work for Microsoft.

Rick

I am just a basic home user and have comfortably used every Windows version since 3.1 (except 8 and 8.1). Windows 11 is driving me nuts. Why does Windows 11 have such miniscule windows in things like Word and Excel? They can’t be made bigger and the text in them is almost impossible to read.

Ciprian Adrian Rusen

What do you mean? Can you please explain in more detail? Maybe your issue can be easily fixed, but I can’t understand it.