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BillB

FORGET W8, it is for the inept and never will take the place of a real working desktop OS. It is for toys and those that use toys, not for the real world. I will never buy it or use it.

TheBigOldDog

Punxsutawney Puppy came out, saw Blue and predicted another year of Windows 7

BillB

Well said and keeps it legal! Dog, I miss MSDOS, when the world was young and smart and worked for a living. Ask any young person what a WRENCH is and they will say a Bad Back from carrying their over size iPad. We are not going to make it!!

TheBigOldDog

Don’t miss DOS per se but do miss the days when people knew how to use a command line because they had a better understanding of how computers worked. And, it is true that this country has lost people who knew how to build and fix things. Today, they buy and throw away. Things work by PFM (Pure Flipping Magic) This dumbing down of America leads to bad walled garden OS designs that we thoroughly rejected decades ago.

TrickTickler99

TheBigOldDog is right it’s not just America It’s all over Europe as well I miss DOS my programming never failed once I got it right.

PCezar

Who the f*** would want a 22.5″ monitor (or a bigger one) half divided like the picture in the article ?
That picture alone speak volumes and would be enough for a sane person to avoid win8.
Maybe Win8 is twice as fast as Win7, maybe not.
Boot time is not THAT important to me.
Both systems control the machine and that is OK, but presentation is important today.
I wouldn’t use something that I don’t like.
I find these primary colored tiles very ugly and distasteful.
If you like them then use them, I’m fine with that. Just don’t try to force them on me, that’s not gonna work.

GLENN SAHLI

Couldn’t have said it any better myself!!!!
Now how do we get them to change it back???
That is the $64,000 question.

Glenn

Cut the crap and bring back the desktop and Start button to access programs. You’re going to find more people switching to Mac and other OS’s. Whose idea was this modified smart phone?? Should be fired!!

john3347

“Whose idea was this modified smart phone?? Should be fired!!”

I don’t know if he was fired, asked to leave, or made his own decision to leave, but thankfully he is gone. I am afraid that the woman who replaced him will be no better because she was the authority behind the beginning of the !@#$%^ ribbon that began with Office 2007.

GLENN SAHLI

Do you want the ribbon above or below??
Makes sense to me….. 🙁
Why make everything more difficult for the people who have been using this whole system for almost 20 years?? Should at least give the option to run in “Classic Mode” or something similar.
I guess it is all about the $$$$$$. It’s a sad world.

TheBigOldDog

Responsibility lies at the feet of Ballmer and Ballmer alone. Windows is (was) their whole franchise – their monopoly. It was the golden goose. Now in the span of six years he has managed to nearly kill that goose. How he keeps his job after playing footsie with Yahoo while Vista was being shoveled out and now repeating that mistake with Win 8 is totally beyond my ability to comprehend.

BillB

The old saying goes: “He who controls the information controls the world”, is what this is all about. Beware Google and its googlebit systems. As the man said, the last sound you will hear when BB takes over is ‘CLICK’!

Lord Darren

“PC Settings is being developed into a solid alternative to the Control Panel. First of all, it is searchable. On the top right corner it has a search box you can use to quickly find what you are looking for.”
Searchable CP is nothing new, the CP has been searchable since Vista. Now lets take a look at the other “updates” in this SP. OK, I’m seeing tablet, phone, M$ $tore, nothing about the PC! Apparently M$ d*** is feeling a little short in the IE dept, they need to copy every other browser and come out with a new version every 4 months. *rolls eyes* “Better integration with SkyDrive”, wow never saw that coming (sarcasm). M$ using their system again to drive out the competition, it’s IE and netscape all over again, history repeats it’s self.

PCezar

I can’t help thinking of this photo every time I see a windows 8 ad
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RSsN9UkBbh8/UGz_dFomTkI/AAAAAAAAANQ/5xETKBKTmX4/s1600/windows+teletubbies.jpg

Bob

That ‘hidden’ menu that you claim requires the winkey+X.. try just right clicking the lower left corner. Easy-Peasy!!

The lack of shutdown/restart in start.. confusing at first, but makes total sense. Keep your apps in the ‘apps’ menu, settings in the ‘settings’ menu. Not like it can’t be accessed from the lock screen also.

And if that’s not good enough.. create a shortcut to the shutdown shell cmd, and pin it to the start menu! *facepalm*

kkcdns

—- You know what?
*** What?
—- Nothing!.
*** Zer0 Kill 0.K.
mmmm win95, it is new one or something i missed because slept so long

Nik

Instead of Windows + X you can also right click on the new start button (or the Start menu preview tile on Windows 8). Windows + X also works on Windows 8.

SBaker

I find it strangle that the author does not mention that if you install the Preview that you cannot simply uninstall it nor can you directly upgrade to the full Win 8.1 package when it is released.

Ciprian Adrian Rusen

This is a presentation of what’s new and interesting not a spec-sheet, nor a tutorial about how to install it, etc. Such materials will be published soon and they will mention the shortcoming you just shared.

sbaker

I appreciate the clarification, but I think the warnings should have come first. The media in general (by no means just you) has publicized the Public Preview without mentioning the drawbacks. Being an IT consultant I love the extra work. However, in the past two days have had to explain to approximately 20 clients why they don’t want the update.

Ciprian Adrian Rusen

We are working on an article just like that right now. It will be published tomorrow. Please consider the fact that very little time has passed since it was made available to the public. It’s less than 24 hours. We need some time to test, experiment, learn, etc. This is coming very soon. 😉

Mike Chambers

Why in the world would you expect to be able to uninstall it?? It’s an entire OS, not an application. Implementing an uninstall for it would be a colossal waste of hard drive space. There is a reason that MS keeps emphasizing that you should NOT install the preview on your main workstation, and says it’s only meant for experienced user who enjoy testing new stuff.

sbaker

You have completely missed my point. I wasn’t suggesting MS should have included an uninstall but rather the media (blogs, fanboy sites, network news, etc) should take more care to emphasize the fact that this Preview is not for amateurs.

Mike Chambers

“After testing the Windows 8.1 Public Preview for a couple of hours, I am very pleased by what I am seeing. Yes, there are still a few things that need to be ironed out but Microsoft has really listened to feedback. They have addressed almost everything users complained about in Windows 8.”

How much did Microsoft pay the guy who wrote this article? The only things they changed after listening to Windows 8 feedback are the minor complaints. The only thing stopping 95% of the folks who hate Windows 8 is the total removal of the Start menu!

All they did is add a boot-to-desktop option and bring back the Start BUTTON!! The button does nothing but bring up the same **** Metro Start screen that we hated in Windows 8. This is a sad joke, and the fact that MS keeps talking about the “return of the Start button” is kind of an insult to our intelligence. Do they think that the button alone will shut everybody up? Keep dreaming.

The technical improvements in the Windows 8 kernel are actually really nice. The whole system just works more smoothly and is lighter on system resources. If only they just let me have the Start menu back, I would switch to 8 in a heartbeat. That’s all I ask!

Yes there are programs like Start8 to bring it back, but IMO this is unacceptable. I shouldn’t have to rely on third-party software to give me back what never should have been removed to begin with. I urge everybody else to not accept it either. Microsoft needs to fix this!

All future Windows releases will be failures until they decide to give us the option for the real Start MENU. I hate to say it, as I’ve always defended Windows against Mac/Linux users, but it’s getting tougher to do so when they keep churning out crap like this.

I think we are witnessing the beginning of Microsoft’s empire crumbling into rubble, and if they don’t get their *** together soon and really listen to their users it may be too late to turn things around. I miss Bill Gates. Say what you will about him, but he knew how to run a business.

Ciprian Adrian Rusen

Before you make stupid accusations again please take a moment to think. Next time I won’t bother to reply and I will just remove flaming posts and ban people who have the tendency to pick on someone else’s honest work. The internet is full of haters. We don’t need yet another one.

Nik Rolls

No one took anything away from you. Has the Start menu been removed from your computer? No. Want to keep it? Don’t upgrade. It’s that simple really.

Windows 7 is still well supported, so I don’t see what you’re missing by not upgrading, if you hate the changes so much.

I don’t have a problem with the change myself. Windows 8 has super fast search as you type, much faster than Windows 7 had in its menu. If I want something, I press the Start key, type the first few letters and press Enter. Done in a second. On Windows 7 I had to wait 3-5 seconds for the results to show up. On Windows 8 I can do the same for the control panel using Start + W, then type. It’s much faster, so I’m happy with the change.

So stop going on like the world is ending and Microsoft is a failure for sticking to their guns and changing how people think about computing. They’re on the up, and you’re just bringing us down.

McVile

to me the only real problem with windows 8 was the lack of the start button which you can buy from stardock other than that learning new things is fun its not that hard to reinstall win 7 if that’s what you want!