Some of the tests are not really valid comparisons… e.g. task scheduler. Did you create a non-logged in program startup for example? The control panel task scheduler in vista sounds like the shortcut is set to run elevated so you can do a startup task.
Parental controls – if they are protected by a password of some sort anyway then you don’t need UAC as well but if they are not, removing UAC is a bit of an issue isn’t it?
Apart from that sort of stuff, interesting article.
Creating any kind of task works, no matter how you start the task scheduler.
Regarding Parental Controls – i really do not get your point. Can you please explain better?
What does a password have to do with Parental Controls and UAC?
If you setup Parental Controls rules in Windows Vista, it always shows up an UAC prompt. The same done in Windows 7, with the default UAC level on, doesn’t trigger an UAC prompt. That’s what our test is saying.
SamC
14 years ago
RE: parental controls – they are useless if anyone with any credentials can alter them right? I’m curious what sort of enforcement/protection is used for them? Is it a role required? I have never used it personally.
Also regarding creating tasks, if you want to auto-start a program that requires elevation for example, then I would expect the scheduler to ask you for a prompt when setting it up. And to not request elevation if the task does not require it. I guess my question is more to clarify ambiguity.
Regards,
SamC
Id10TError
14 years ago
Would have been nice if MS had decided to include basic ‘rules’ with uac allowing users to give permissions to applications, just think i could give winamp ‘permission’ to write to its own directory or give another app permission to modify Registry:HKLM. This would have been a great help to many users out there and the permission box could have included a ‘remember this approval’ so users would only have ever seen the box on a per need basis as apposed to a per use basis. That said for winamp i just change its folder(in program files) permission to ‘all users’. Despite my complaint i like to know when somthing new tries to ‘pull’ somthing and the chance to VITO it is excellent.
Godwin
14 years ago
I don’t really get how this is a benchmark. Since they both work the same if they have the same settings. Your benchmark is just testing settings.
What I really want to know is what are the true differences between Vista UAC and Windows 7 UAC?
This benchmark tells what you want to know: the difference between Windows Vista UAC and Windows 7 UAC. The system/thinking behind UAC is the same. The difference is in the number prompts you receive and when.
Adrian
13 years ago
What I don’t understand is why Windows 7 always prompts for username and password in a UAC prompt, when Vista just gave an are-you-sure-style confirmation dialog. I really didn’t mind Vista’s UAC, but after a day with Windows 7, I’m suffering from password fatigue.
The UAC dialogue does not ask for a username and password, unless you are logged with a user which is not admin. If your user is set as administrator, you just need to click on Yes.
outlook repait
12 years ago
Would have been nice if MS had decided to include basic ‘rules’ with uac allowing users to give permissions to applications, just think i could give winamp ‘permission’ to write to its own directory or give another app permission to modify Registry:HKLM. This would have been a great help to many users out there and the permission box could have included a ‘remember this approval’ so users would only have ever seen the box on a per need basis as apposed to a per use basis. That said for winamp i just change its folder(in program files) permission to ‘all users’. Despite my complaint i like to know when somthing new tries to ‘pull’ somthing and the chance to VITO it is excellent.
Some of the tests are not really valid comparisons… e.g. task scheduler. Did you create a non-logged in program startup for example? The control panel task scheduler in vista sounds like the shortcut is set to run elevated so you can do a startup task.
Parental controls – if they are protected by a password of some sort anyway then you don’t need UAC as well but if they are not, removing UAC is a bit of an issue isn’t it?
Apart from that sort of stuff, interesting article.
Creating any kind of task works, no matter how you start the task scheduler.
Regarding Parental Controls – i really do not get your point. Can you please explain better?
What does a password have to do with Parental Controls and UAC?
If you setup Parental Controls rules in Windows Vista, it always shows up an UAC prompt. The same done in Windows 7, with the default UAC level on, doesn’t trigger an UAC prompt. That’s what our test is saying.
RE: parental controls – they are useless if anyone with any credentials can alter them right? I’m curious what sort of enforcement/protection is used for them? Is it a role required? I have never used it personally.
Also regarding creating tasks, if you want to auto-start a program that requires elevation for example, then I would expect the scheduler to ask you for a prompt when setting it up. And to not request elevation if the task does not require it. I guess my question is more to clarify ambiguity.
Regards,
SamC
Would have been nice if MS had decided to include basic ‘rules’ with uac allowing users to give permissions to applications, just think i could give winamp ‘permission’ to write to its own directory or give another app permission to modify Registry:HKLM. This would have been a great help to many users out there and the permission box could have included a ‘remember this approval’ so users would only have ever seen the box on a per need basis as apposed to a per use basis. That said for winamp i just change its folder(in program files) permission to ‘all users’. Despite my complaint i like to know when somthing new tries to ‘pull’ somthing and the chance to VITO it is excellent.
I don’t really get how this is a benchmark. Since they both work the same if they have the same settings. Your benchmark is just testing settings.
What I really want to know is what are the true differences between Vista UAC and Windows 7 UAC?
This benchmark tells what you want to know: the difference between Windows Vista UAC and Windows 7 UAC. The system/thinking behind UAC is the same. The difference is in the number prompts you receive and when.
What I don’t understand is why Windows 7 always prompts for username and password in a UAC prompt, when Vista just gave an are-you-sure-style confirmation dialog. I really didn’t mind Vista’s UAC, but after a day with Windows 7, I’m suffering from password fatigue.
The UAC dialogue does not ask for a username and password, unless you are logged with a user which is not admin. If your user is set as administrator, you just need to click on Yes.
Would have been nice if MS had decided to include basic ‘rules’ with uac allowing users to give permissions to applications, just think i could give winamp ‘permission’ to write to its own directory or give another app permission to modify Registry:HKLM. This would have been a great help to many users out there and the permission box could have included a ‘remember this approval’ so users would only have ever seen the box on a per need basis as apposed to a per use basis. That said for winamp i just change its folder(in program files) permission to ‘all users’. Despite my complaint i like to know when somthing new tries to ‘pull’ somthing and the chance to VITO it is excellent.